A single system in caldari high sec has more industry slots than entire regions of 0.0

That doesn't sound broken to you?

Doubt many would pass up the chance of building where they live, instead of the current method. Having to do logistics in deep null can be a pain.

You can literally spend a trillion ISK and not have a region with more slots than the best hi-sec systems.

Let's reverse the situation: imagine that it cost a trillion ISK to rent the same hi-sec slot capacity as could be obtained in a single 0.0 system. Would that be OK with you?

Highsec needs to be the best for THE NEWBIESSSSSSSSS

You object to 33% higher volumes?

Do you make less than 100k isk/hr per slot?

take a small gallente pos. (picked as the fuel is the most expensive, on the market)

This will cost you 132,000 isk per hour to run, if you're just buying the fuel blocks from the market. (+ 2k or so for charters.)

A Equipment Assembly array has 6 slots on it. You can fit multiple in a single small tower. But for this, we'll assume you're using just the one. (Other arrays have varying numbers of slots. But module production isn't a bad baseline)



So, that means, per hour, you're paying 22,000 isk, per slot. Sure, this is about 67 time higher than what you'd pay in a highsec station, but...

For a time multiplier of 0.75. This equates to a 33% increase in productivity.

So if you're making 100k isk/hr per line in a station, in a POS you'd be making 133k isk/hr.

So you're already making 10% more than you would. After costs. Higher isk/hrs equate to higher benefits (approaching 33% as you reduce the percentage paid)

Stick in another array, and it improves even further.

Sure, you'll have to fly to and from the POS every so often to pick stuff up and drop stuff off. But that's /it/.

You also have to trust your corporation. That needs work.


But manufacturing in POS, in highsec, is a bit of a no-brainer. The downside is being wardecced. But that's when you strip the POS, and turn it into a dickstar.

If you don't understand how higher costs but faster turnover can earn you more money then I'm just not sure that anything I'm going to say is going to change your mind.

The reaons its not the same for nullsec is that moving materials around is a lot harder (how do you move 1M m3 of trit in 0.0? JF, thats how, high sec you could have an army of alts on uninsured badgers if it suited your fancy) and not all systems have outposts.

In my experience the increase in production always justifies the shrinking of the margin. If the margin was that small in the first place it probably wasn't worth producing outside the POS anyhow. Anyhow I was primarily pointing out that its not accurate to catagorize it as a "cost increase" without allluding to the fact that your are producing a greater amount.

My primary point is that if null sec industrialists are to compete with high-sec industrialists (and I have a hard time believing that even you think they should actually be at a disadvantage as opposed to on an even footing) then something needs to change, either null sec needs to be far more profitable or there needs to be risk and/or greater costs associated with high sec production. Without that the status quo will simply remain. The risk you take with making Null sec more profitable while leaving high sec completely intact is that you risk making null sec too profitable and ruininig the whole concept of scarcity which keeps ISK relevant.

Not at all, I'm suggesting that a reduction in the material requirements offset the station and pos upkeep costs perhaps even to the point where the end product could be sold below the high sec production cost, perhaps that number is greater than a 25% reduction, I don't know I haven't done the math but that is easy enough to calculate. That makes it possible, I'm not suggesting its the most desireable alternative.